{"id":32852,"date":"2022-10-23T04:22:58","date_gmt":"2022-10-23T04:22:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/?p=32852"},"modified":"2022-10-23T04:22:58","modified_gmt":"2022-10-23T04:22:58","slug":"ripple-gets-the-documents-it-wants-maybe-not-the-ones-it-needs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/?p=32852","title":{"rendered":"Ripple Gets The Documents It Wants; Maybe Not The Ones It Needs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<figure class=\"embed-base image-embed embed-0\" role=\"presentation\"><figcaption>\n<p class=\"color-body light-text\">Brad Garlinghouse, chief executive officer of Ripple Labs Inc., during the Milken Institute Global <span class=\"plus\" data-ga-track=\"caption expand\">&#8230; [+]<\/span><span class=\"expanded-caption\"> Conference in Beverly Hills, California, U.S., on Tuesday, Oct. 19, 2021. The event brings together individuals with the capital, power, and influence to change the world and connects them with those whose expertise and creativity are reinventing health, finance, technology, philanthropy, industry, and media. Photographer: Kyle Grillot\/Bloomberg<\/span><\/p>\n<p><small>\u00a9 2021 Bloomberg Finance LP<\/small><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Ripple Labs may have won a hard-fought battle in wresting documents from the Securities and Exchange Commission that it says supports its case against the agency, but that does not mean it will prevail in a $1.3 billion suit against it for selling the XRP<br \/>\n  <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/digital-assets\/assets\/xrp-xrp\/\" class=\"ticker-link\" data-ga-track=\"Ticker:XRP\" data-vars-event-label=\"ticker:XRP\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" aria-label=\"XRP\">XRP<\/a><br \/>\n  cryptocurrency as an unregistered security.<\/p>\n<p>The company, which uses the XRP token to facilitate cross-border payments, seems to think it scored big after SEC complied with a court order to cough up documents related to a 2018 speech by William Hinman, a former director of finance at the agency, in which he declared that the ether cryptocurrency was not a security. Stuart Alderoty, Ripple\u2019s general counsel, took to <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/s_alderoty\/status\/1583229474681675776\" class=\"color-link\" title=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/s_alderoty\/status\/1583229474681675776\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/twitter.com\/s_alderoty\/status\/1583229474681675776\" aria-label=\"Twitter\">Twitter<\/a> on Friday to crow that after \u201c18 months and 6 court orders\u201d the company has finally obtained the documents. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhile they remain confidential for now (at the SEC\u2019s insistence),\u201d he added, \u201cI can say that it was well worth the fight to get them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But was it? <\/p>\n<p>Carol Vancleef, who chairs the digital-assets legal practice at the Washington office of the Bradley law firm, wants to know more. <\/p>\n<p>She points out that the Ripple team has not shared what they\u2019re looking for in the paperwork nor indicated how it might help their cause. \u201cIt\u2019s great they have the documents, but what is it they\u2019re trying to extract from those documents to support their case?\u201d she asks. <\/p>\n<p>No matter what a former SEC official thought four years ago,<strong> <\/strong>the ultimate arbiter of whether cryptocurrencies<strong> <\/strong>are legally securities is the U.S. Supreme Court, which makes its decision independently of the agency, according to Stephen Diamond, a securities law professor at Santa Clara Law School.<\/p>\n<p>The high court \u201chas spoken dozens of times on this issue over the last 70 years, and they have never strayed from the very simple framework that they established in the Howey Case,\u201d says Diamond. \u201cI don&#8217;t think XRP or Ripple is going to make a dent in that in this instance.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The XRP debate centers on whether the token passes the Howey Test, established in 1946, which defines when financial transactions qualify as investment contracts. If they are, then they are securities under U.S. law. The key is if there is an investment of money in a common enterprise with a reasonable expectation of profit to be derived from the efforts of others. <\/p>\n<p>The SEC charged Ripple with conducting a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/news\/press-release\/2020-338\" class=\"color-link\" title=\"https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/news\/press-release\/2020-338\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/news\/press-release\/2020-338\" aria-label=\"$1.3 billion unregistered securities offering\">$1.3 billion unregistered securities offering<\/a> when the company sold XRP to raise capital for its business.<strong> <\/strong>In a lengthy response to the SEC\u2019s complaint last year, Ripple stated that XRP is not a security. \u201cThe functionality and liquidity of XRP are wholly incompatible with securities regulation,\u201d the statement said. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe crypto world likes to claim that there is no regulation, that somehow we need regulatory clarity,\u201d Diamond says. \u201cApparently they don&#8217;t like the simplicity of a very straightforward, four-part test that has been used probably thousands of times at this point by the SEC and has been supported consistently by the courts.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But crypto did not exist in 1946. <\/p>\n<p>Joseph Hall and Jai Massari, partners at legal firm David Polk, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.davispolk.com\/sites\/default\/files\/2022-03\/Regulating%20Crypto%20Shouldn%27t%20Hinge%20On%20Securities%20Status.pdf\" class=\"color-link\" title=\"https:\/\/www.davispolk.com\/sites\/default\/files\/2022-03\/Regulating%20Crypto%20Shouldn%27t%20Hinge%20On%20Securities%20Status.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.davispolk.com\/sites\/default\/files\/2022-03\/Regulating%20Crypto%20Shouldn%27t%20Hinge%20On%20Securities%20Status.pdf\" aria-label=\"contend\">contend<\/a> that the Howey Test is outdated and was never imagined to be used on assets like cryptocurrencies. \u201cMany tokens represent no ownership of a business and no claim on the revenues, income or assets of an economic enterprise,\u201d Hall and Massari write. <\/p>\n<p>Hinman <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HJyRATEXpMQ\" class=\"color-link\" title=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HJyRATEXpMQ\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HJyRATEXpMQ\" aria-label=\"said\">said<\/a> at the time he made them that his comments were a personal statement and did not reflect the stance of the SEC. Gary Gensler, the agency\u2019s chairman, has stated several times his view that most cryptocurrencies are securities, with the exception of bitcoin which could be classified as a commodity. <\/p>\n<p>In recent weeks, XRP has traded roughly in line with public perceptions of Ripple\u2019s prospects in the suit. It was up about 4% late Friday at just over 45 cents. That\u2019s higher than its August close around 33 cents, according to data from Nomics, but down from more than $1.80 in April 2021. <\/p>\n<p>The debate over whether cryptocurrencies constitute securities has landed more companies than Ripple in hot water. In July, the SEC declared nine crypto assets securities in a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/litigation\/complaints\/2022\/comp-pr2022-127.pdf\" class=\"color-link\" title=\"https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/litigation\/complaints\/2022\/comp-pr2022-127.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/litigation\/complaints\/2022\/comp-pr2022-127.pdf\" aria-label=\"civil lawsuit\">civil lawsuit<\/a> against a former Coinbase<br \/>\n  <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/companies\/coinbase\" class=\"ticker-link\" data-ga-track=\"Ticker:COIN\" data-vars-event-label=\"ticker:COIN\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" aria-label=\"COIN\">COIN<\/a><br \/>\n  employee. Earlier this year, BlockFi paid a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/news\/press-release\/2022-26\" class=\"color-link\" title=\"https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/news\/press-release\/2022-26\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/news\/press-release\/2022-26\" aria-label=\"$100 million settlement\">$100 million settlement<\/a> to the SEC for an unregistered crypto lending platform offering what the regulator deemed to be securities. The ongoing debate has left a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/jeffkauflin\/2022\/08\/01\/the-gap-between-the-crypto-industry-and-regulators-has-never-been-wider\/?sh=6ea2fab67196\" class=\"color-link\" title=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/jeffkauflin\/2022\/08\/01\/the-gap-between-the-crypto-industry-and-regulators-has-never-been-wider\/?sh=6ea2fab67196\" data-ga-track=\"InternalLink:https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/jeffkauflin\/2022\/08\/01\/the-gap-between-the-crypto-industry-and-regulators-has-never-been-wider\/?sh=6ea2fab67196\" aria-label=\"huge gap\" rel=\"noopener\">huge gap<\/a> between regulators and the crypto industry.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Ripple case raises several issues that are relevant potentially to a number of other cases involving tokens and depending on how they\u2019re resolved in the Ripple case, they may impact the final resolution of the other cases,\u201d Vancleef says.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/news.google.com\/__i\/rss\/rd\/articles\/CBMicmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmZvcmJlcy5jb20vc2l0ZXMvZW1pbHltYXNvbi8yMDIyLzEwLzIyL3JpcHBsZS1nZXRzLXRoZS1kb2N1bWVudHMtaXQtd2FudHMtbWF5YmUtbm90LXRoZS1vbmVzLWl0LW5lZWRzL9IBAA?oc=5\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Brad Garlinghouse, chief executive officer of Ripple Labs Inc., during the Milken Institute Global &#8230; [+] Conference in Beverly Hills, California, U.S., on Tuesday, Oct. 19, 2021. The event brings together individuals with the capital, power, and influence to change the world and connects them with those whose expertise and creativity are reinventing health, finance, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":32853,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[45],"tags":[9714,265],"class_list":["post-32852","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ripple","tag-documents","tag-ripple"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/1666498975_0x0.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32852","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=32852"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32852\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32854,"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32852\/revisions\/32854"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/32853"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=32852"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=32852"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/egrowonline.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=32852"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}